Comments on: Crabtree or Maclin? I’ll pass on both http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/ An Oakland Raiders Blog Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:01:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Heyward-Bey Signs, Crabtree Whines | Just Blog Baby | An Oakland Raiders Blog http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-722 Heyward-Bey Signs, Crabtree Whines | Just Blog Baby | An Oakland Raiders Blog Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:50:33 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-722 [...] is not an “I-told-ya-so” post. But it is a strong endorsement of the Raiders selecting Darrius Heyward-Bey over Michael Crabtree. [...] [...] is not an “I-told-ya-so” post. But it is a strong endorsement of the Raiders selecting Darrius Heyward-Bey over Michael Crabtree. [...]

]]> By: James Scott http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-422 James Scott Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:14:18 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-422 Wonderful read. I couldn't agree more. Crabtree and MAclin are OK but they just are not what I envision when I think top 10 stud WR. THey also played against some of the worse pass D I have ever seen in the B12. By the way hopefully your observation about spread offense WRs has been noted by the Raiders brain trust. Wonderful read.
I couldn’t agree more.
Crabtree and MAclin are OK but they just are not what I envision when I think top 10 stud WR.
THey also played against some of the worse pass D I have ever seen in the B12.

By the way hopefully your observation about spread offense WRs has been noted by the Raiders brain trust.

]]> By: samiam2112 http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-326 samiam2112 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:35:37 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-326 I think it would be a large mistake to take Crabtree!!! A defensive player in that slot is a better fit considering we had the 31st ranked D... The young receivers looked pretty good late in the season. Maclin is not the answer either... To similar to Johnny-Lee's skill set. We haven't even really tapped McFaddens talent. I love Nix he has that something special he wont be there in the 2nd Round. Defense is what will help us win games... If by some miracle Orakpo is there that's a difference maker. I would actually like to see us trade down if the top 3 defensive players are gone. Then take Nix, Brian Pettigrew or Michael Oher. I really would like it if they could get Patrick Chung out of Oregon in the later rounds he is a play maker! Also Max Unger would be a nice addition. We have weapons truly Michael Bush proved he could have some impact Zach Miller may be the best young TE's in the league could you imagine Pettigrew and Miller as bookends in a 2 TE fomation...Scary!!! I just hope we can get better! That's the goal! I think it would be a large mistake to take Crabtree!!! A defensive player in that slot is a better fit considering we had the 31st ranked D… The young receivers looked pretty good late in the season. Maclin is not the answer either… To similar to Johnny-Lee’s skill set. We haven’t even really tapped McFaddens talent.

I love Nix he has that something special he wont be there in the 2nd Round.

Defense is what will help us win games… If by some miracle Orakpo is there that’s a difference maker. I would actually like to see us trade down if the top 3 defensive players are gone. Then take Nix, Brian Pettigrew or Michael Oher.

I really would like it if they could get Patrick Chung out of Oregon in the later rounds he is a play maker! Also Max Unger would be a nice addition.

We have weapons truly Michael Bush proved he could have some impact Zach Miller may be the best young TE’s in the league could you imagine Pettigrew and Miller as bookends in a 2 TE fomation…Scary!!!

I just hope we can get better! That’s the goal!

]]> By: Texans tickets http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-319 Texans tickets Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:27:22 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-319 I will agree with you about Nicks & Robiskie as being talented WR's. Britt & Harvin aren't in Crabtree nor Nicks league. Robiskie could be that guy.I do like the thought of trading down and would do it provided DT Peria Jerry, C Alex Mack, and WR Hakeem Nicks are available. If we could land two of these players and then get a starter in the 2nd then it'd be alright. I will agree with you about Nicks & Robiskie as being talented WR’s. Britt & Harvin aren’t in Crabtree nor Nicks league. Robiskie could be that guy.I do like the thought of trading down and would do it provided DT Peria Jerry, C Alex Mack, and WR Hakeem Nicks are available. If we could land two of these players and then get a starter in the 2nd then it’d be alright.

]]> By: Joey DeLuca http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Joey DeLuca Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:05:42 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-182 It's nice to hear some Raider fans finally tell the truth about Moss. His first year numbers were fine until he got hurt. His second year, we put too much blame on the QBs. Shell & Co. had the OL so screwed up that they couldn't run or pass block. The QB had no time and the O had no running game. I don't know if Favre or Brady could have been successful. Plus, the center probably had a record for most botched snaps. It was a disaster and no wonder Moss wanted out of there. It’s nice to hear some Raider fans finally tell the truth about Moss. His first year numbers were fine until he got hurt. His second year, we put too much blame on the QBs. Shell & Co. had the OL so screwed up that they couldn’t run or pass block. The QB had no time and the O had no running game. I don’t know if Favre or Brady could have been successful. Plus, the center probably had a record for most botched snaps. It was a disaster and no wonder Moss wanted out of there.

]]> By: Raider73 http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-181 Raider73 Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:26:29 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-181 Maybe - but KC is more likely to draft a receiver in a later round than draft a receiver with health ?'s and pick a a LT or Curry if Detroit picks Stafford. St. Louis will also likely take a LT rather than take a wide receiver with ?'s, they need to protect Bulger. Cincy needs a LT if they want to hold on to Palmer and 85; plus they just comitted a four yr contract to Coles which tells you they wanted to adress that need in free-agency - and they're still hoping on Henry. Any one of those teams may decide what the hell and pull the trigger on Crabtree anyways - but chances are they probably wont. Leaving the Raiders to snatch him - sorry jags but Al Davis is drooling over Crabtree's possibilities Maybe – but KC is more likely to draft a receiver in a later round than draft a receiver with health ?’s and pick a a LT or Curry if Detroit picks Stafford.
St. Louis will also likely take a LT rather than take a wide receiver with ?’s, they need to protect Bulger.
Cincy needs a LT if they want to hold on to Palmer and 85; plus they just comitted a four yr contract to Coles which tells you they wanted to adress that need in free-agency – and they’re still hoping on Henry.
Any one of those teams may decide what the hell and pull the trigger on Crabtree anyways – but chances are they probably wont. Leaving the Raiders to snatch him – sorry jags but Al Davis is drooling over Crabtree’s possibilities

]]> By: Tortillared http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-180 Tortillared Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:35:36 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-180 First of all, Crabtree may not be there at 7 for the Raiders to take. Second, Macklin isn't nearly as good as Crabtree. Third pass on him and you will regret it for the next 10 years. Crabtree is great at route running and does more than take 2 steps, catch a screen, and run. He makes cuts without slowing down, flailing his arms, or tipping off the DB. He raises his hands to catch the ball at the last second. He is a decent blocker and understands running decoy routes. He is the real deal. Besides, Crabtree may not even be there for the Raiders to pass on. Detroit is talking about taking Curry, which is KC's top choice. So KC takes a DE or Crabtree. St Louis needs to replace Pace and Holt. There are a dozen quality LT in this draft but only 1 playmaker at WR. Cincy needs to replace a departed WR and can only hold onto Ocho Cinco so much longer. So the Raiders may not have to worry about passing on Crabtree. First of all, Crabtree may not be there at 7 for the Raiders to take. Second, Macklin isn’t nearly as good as Crabtree. Third pass on him and you will regret it for the next 10 years.

Crabtree is great at route running and does more than take 2 steps, catch a screen, and run. He makes cuts without slowing down, flailing his arms, or tipping off the DB. He raises his hands to catch the ball at the last second. He is a decent blocker and understands running decoy routes. He is the real deal.

Besides, Crabtree may not even be there for the Raiders to pass on. Detroit is talking about taking Curry, which is KC’s top choice. So KC takes a DE or Crabtree. St Louis needs to replace Pace and Holt. There are a dozen quality LT in this draft but only 1 playmaker at WR. Cincy needs to replace a departed WR and can only hold onto Ocho Cinco so much longer. So the Raiders may not have to worry about passing on Crabtree.

]]> By: Anthony http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-179 Anthony Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:26:48 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-179 You're an idiot. You obviously watched no Big 12 football and are clearly bias towards the Pac-10. You must believe that Mark Sanchez is worthy of a top 10 pick too, right? Both of these guys are studs. You say you don't put much emphasis on Crabtree but rebuttle that with since he's not 6'3 that he's more of a Derrick Mason caliber player. Sounds like his size difference seriously hindered your thoughts in my opinion. Maclin is up in the air for me because he doesn't run very crisp routes and I see him more of a 3rd down receiver and a big return man. Crabtree is a steal and if your dreadful Raiders pass on this guy if he's available, be prepared to pick in the top 10 again. Your argument clearly shows why your a blog writer and not a GM. This is a moot point anyway since I highly doubt Crabtree will be available at #7. He runs great routes, maybe you should view his highlights. His bread and butter are jail break screens but this guy is a nightmare to defend anywhere on the field. I hope the Raiders front office don't listen to anything you've just said. By the way, great call on Jason Smith....how predictable, wanting to grab an offensive tackle. He's so proven right and so was D'Brickashaw Ferguson, yes? Think before you speak. You’re an idiot. You obviously watched no Big 12 football and are clearly bias towards the Pac-10. You must believe that Mark Sanchez is worthy of a top 10 pick too, right? Both of these guys are studs. You say you don’t put much emphasis on Crabtree but rebuttle that with since he’s not 6′3 that he’s more of a Derrick Mason caliber player. Sounds like his size difference seriously hindered your thoughts in my opinion. Maclin is up in the air for me because he doesn’t run very crisp routes and I see him more of a 3rd down receiver and a big return man. Crabtree is a steal and if your dreadful Raiders pass on this guy if he’s available, be prepared to pick in the top 10 again. Your argument clearly shows why your a blog writer and not a GM. This is a moot point anyway since I highly doubt Crabtree will be available at #7. He runs great routes, maybe you should view his highlights. His bread and butter are jail break screens but this guy is a nightmare to defend anywhere on the field. I hope the Raiders front office don’t listen to anything you’ve just said. By the way, great call on Jason Smith….how predictable, wanting to grab an offensive tackle. He’s so proven right and so was D’Brickashaw Ferguson, yes? Think before you speak.

]]> By: Raider73 http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Raider73 Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:44:10 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-178 We do need to fill the trenches to get anywhere - but we cant pass on a talent like Crabtree ... Crabtree, McFadden, and Russell will make an offensive trio that will shine for many years. Then we should go about filling our other needs. Also, when we had Moss we didnt have a QB to get him the ball, now we got the QB but no receivers that can get open consistently ... CRABTREE! We do need to fill the trenches to get anywhere – but we cant pass on a talent like Crabtree … Crabtree, McFadden, and Russell will make an offensive trio that will shine for many years. Then we should go about filling our other needs. Also, when we had Moss we didnt have a QB to get him the ball, now we got the QB but no receivers that can get open consistently … CRABTREE!

]]> By: inonewordraider http://justblogbaby.com/2009/03/10/crabtree-or-maclin-ill-pass-on-both/comment-page-1/#comment-177 inonewordraider Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:42:52 +0000 http://justblogbaby.com/?p=1152#comment-177 I really like Crabtree's game and he will an impact receiver but gotta get OL and DL b4 we can be competetive. Randy Moss didn't have enough time to get open during his stint I really like Crabtree’s game and he will an impact receiver but gotta get OL and DL b4 we can be competetive. Randy Moss didn’t have enough time to get open during his stint

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